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Re: Apple’s Mac Mini: I Hope It’s Not Going Away

webomatica — Mon, 28 May 2007 01:44:42 -0000

Well, I'm referring to how Apple markets their computers, and without question the iMacs are advertised as the consumer machines and the Pros as professional. If the end user decides to use the consumer machine in a professional capacity, that's great (as I use an iMac and an iBook), but I don't think that changes Apple's product matrix.

Re: Apple’s Mac Mini: I Hope It’s Not Going Away

Neurotic Nomad — Sun, 27 May 2007 23:18:26 -0000

I beg to differ on the opinion that the 24" iMac is a mid-range consumer-level machine, but disagreements is what makes democracy great. I know many photographic and video professionals that use iMacs (I'm a professional myself, but use a PowerMac), and it is well suited for their needs; the 24" is the machine of their professional dreams. (Anecdotal, I know.)

I also beg to differ on the opinion that the mini is an "entry-level" machine. It's the lowest end Mac available, but it is a mid-range computing device. Apple just chooses to not participate in the race-to-the-bottom/no-profit-margin world of entry level. This confuses many people - because they classify the least-expensive available as low-end, and most expensive as high-end.

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Re: Apple’s Mac Mini: I Hope It’s Not Going Away

webomatica — Sun, 27 May 2007 20:51:25 -0000

If you look in the Apple store, the product matrix is

Professional: MacBook Pro, Mac Pro

Consumer: MacBook, iMac, Mac mini.

This could also be organized by portable vs. desktop (as it is in the Apple Store):

MacBook, MacBook Pro

Mac Mini, iMac, Mac Pro

There isn't a specific professional all in one as you mention (that would be an iMac Pro which doesn't exist), and the Mac Mini is I suppose, an "entry level" desktop. iMacs are defined as midrange.

So truth be told, the portable line is missing product, which is yet another realm of speculation that there may be some mythical "subnote book" to match the Mac Mini / iPod Shuffle.

However, I must reiterate that I'm definitely in the market for the Mac Mini and as such, I don't believe the rumor on Apple Insider is true either.

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Re: Apple’s Mac Mini: I Hope It’s Not Going Away

Neurotic Nomad — Sun, 27 May 2007 19:27:03 -0000

Apple has a simple-to-understand product matrix: They have a consumer level laptop and a pro level laptop. They have a consumer level all-in-one, and a pro level all-in-one. They have a consumer level headless Mac, and a pro level headless Mac.

Their consumer level is NOT entry level but rather low-midrange (though geeks would split hairs and declare a certain CPU or GPU to be "low end" due to age while ignoring performance of the total package); and their pro level is over-kill for anyone who isn't actually a professional.

What they do not make is a geek level (aka "pro-sumer") machine. A mini-tower (or cube) headless Mac with 3.5" hard drive and a video card in a PCI-ish slot. A machine that a geek would feel was analogous to the do-it-yourself machine they've been frankensteining since the mid-90s. They call this mythical beast a "switcher machine" when it's just geek-bait.

So the geeks grouse about the mini, declaring it a low seller (based on nothing more than the fact that it is not bragged on by Apple and it's over 200 days since it's last update. Read the original article, these were his reasons!) and destined for the chopping block - mostly because it's not a geek toy. (also, no FM tuner, and less space than a nomad... no wait that's the other non-geek toy that geeks declared dead)

On the list of Apple-branded products, the mini is doing fine. If you are looking for Apple products due for chopping, think:
iPod socks. iPod Hi-Fi. iPod Tubes.

...and leave the mini alone.

Re: Apple’s Mac Mini: I Hope It’s Not Going Away

webomatica — Sun, 27 May 2007 12:35:30 -0000

Yeah mike, I haven't yet bought an Apple TV as I don't have a use for it. And likewise I'm looking forward to the next Mini iteration as well.

Another thing that's kinda wrapped up in this is that for the past several years I've done just fine with an iMac but would rather not buy yet another keyboard, mouse, and built in monitor if I can avoid it.

The only way I'd buy an Apple TV is if, as mentioned above, it was the next iteration of a Mac Mini but branded as an Apple TV.

Re: Apple’s Mac Mini: I Hope It’s Not Going Away

flammable — Sun, 27 May 2007 03:40:12 -0000

Seriously. If I had a need for an Apple TV, and would already be buying one, it would be neat that it could run OS X. But I wouldn't buy an Apple TV, with the sole intention of using it as a computer.

I was (am) awaiting the next upgrade of the Mini...hopefully using the new Santa Rosa chipset from Intel - which is basically the next step from Core 2 Duo, if I understand correctly. Big step up.

If the Mini is killed off, I might settle for a Core 2 Duo...there's no way I can afford a Mac Pro, and I although I really don't want an iMac, I guess it would do the job.

From Apple's perspective, I'm not sure how this is a good idea...it's basically a good intro Mac, for those Windows users impressed with their iPods. Maybe Apple's thinking the same people would be willing to shell out the cash for an iMac, instead?

Re: Apple’s Mac Mini: I Hope It’s Not Going Away

olikenobi — Sat, 26 May 2007 19:48:37 -0000

I'm afraid this rumor might be true. If I had more money, I'd buy 2 or 3 Mac Minis to use with a Pluto system:
http://plutohome.com

From what I've understood the Apple TV is not as powerful as the Mac Mini, and has not as many features (bluetooth for example), so it wouldn't be an option to me.

Re: Apple’s Mac Mini: I Hope It’s Not Going Away

webomatica — Sat, 26 May 2007 19:31:57 -0000

Totally. It still seems to be a good switcher strategy.

I can't believe WWDC and the Apple iPhone debut is so soon. Time sure flies by. So I think we'll have some new Apple product announcements soon.

Re: Apple’s Mac Mini: I Hope It’s Not Going Away

MG Siegler — Sat, 26 May 2007 18:45:05 -0000

Yeah, I cannot see how Apple would leave the low-end range completely void of a product when they're gaining market share so rapidly now. Seems like it would shoot themselves in the foot.

For this reason, I'm sure they're up to something...